I suppose it’s possible that the Blick samples might look more accurate on some displays…and mine less so. You can touch it up with cooler blues for a wide range of cerulean- and manganese-like hues.īut those lovely grays that cerulean produces with dull reds are classic old-school watercolor staples, and for them, I’d say WN’s is best.Mythrill, no probs. The hues have no such problems, being based on pthalo blue.Ĭobalt turquoise has become a much more common pigment since the demise of manganese and it’s greener still, with nice granulation. (I use Lukas these days.)īut it may be that the very distinctiveness of real manganese would make it less desirable than the hue versions for folks who had never grown to love the real thing, which is basically a unique substance, like Cobalt violet i.e., their behavior, tinting strength and granulation are so quirky, they don’t mix easily with others. I’m huge fan of real Manganese and tried both WN and DS manganese Hues they’re nice paints, but no comparison to real manganese which has such a distinctive behavior. Genuine manganese is quite a bit greener and even more dramatically granulating than cerulean. To my eye, only the WN and Quiller cerulean swatches look and act like classic blue-greenish cerulean. Here’s a previous post on cerulean with some swatches depicted. I do have their genuine cobalt blue that I bought some time ago and I can’t see myself living without it! Peter: I’ve seen cotman’s genuine cerulean blue and I’ve been hesitant to buy it because it isn’t artist’s grade. Would WN manganese blue hue be a good manganese blue to you, or a genuine manganese blue? I’ve heard alot about MGraham’s paint and I see them all the time at Blick and they do look to be really cost effective. Virgil: I see cerulean blue suggested all the time in the many books that I’ve read so I’ve been wanting to give a real cerulean blue a shot. I do have a few American Journey paints and after some months they all seem to be leaking out gum arabic all the time no matter how much I clean them and tighten their caps, this is a deal breaker for me because I do travel with my supplies and from what I’ve read the air pressure on a plane makes tubes leak if they’re not tightly screwed.Ĭharelstonecain: I see DaVinci’s paint all the time at my local DaVinci’s near school, its starting to look tempting now! Rui: I’ve been eyeing manganese blue for a while now, it really does look like a blue version of opera.īob: I was thinking that too but it seems like not all cerulean blues are made out to be the same. Irene: I was quite amazed myself when I mixed the two together and found that beautiful gray, mixing indian red with a green shade of pthalo blue or a darker blue like antwerp blue makes some amazing darks Oh my! Seems like alot has happened on this thread while I was fast asleep! And my apologies for placing this topic in the wrong forum, I wasn’t too sure about where to place it since I saw topics about color choices here and in palette talk. Let us know which Cerulean you settle on and how you like it. And I love the granulation one gets in larger wash areas. It can work for shadows on certain illuminated colors. But it works wonderfully for me for skies, distant land forms in the background, and shady objects. I find it to be just a tad greener, however, than Cerulean. I use it regularly and love what it does. I’d second the suggestioin by Rui about Manganese Blue. The difference, if any, would be in the pigment type and binders used by each manufacturer. As for permenancy, lightfastness and pigment load, they are all artist quality and good paints. W&N and Dan Smith are two other good sources. If I wanted a paint with a “moist” feel to it for ease in application, I’d probably try M. If I were looking, I’d first try DaVinci or CJ, at least a 15ml tube. I generally don’t use Cerulean, since it’s opaque, but it is a lovely color, preferred by many painters. The colors in DaVinci and American Journey are not exactly the same, so one could shop both paint lines to look for desired colros. The only other manufacturer that I know of, that makes 37ml tubes in the U.S., is Winsor & Newton, but their prices are generally higher than DV and CJ. that DaVinci and American Journey from Cheap Joe’s, in the 37ml tube, give the best value, ie, losest cost per ml of paint. Bob’s got a point! It’s generally true in the U.S.
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